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IR is not ALL about the numbers - or is it?
4Nice piece in Investor Relations Musings last week about the aspects of sales and marketing that apply to investor relations - a topic that gets regular air time. In fact, Margo Happer recently did an interview on this very topic with IR Alert that I thought was particularly well done.
Anyways, what caught my eye in the “Musings” post was the following comment Dave Hogan made: “The numbers are hugely important, but it’s not ALL about the numbers.” I agree… sorta. In my opinion (or IMO, as the young people say), IR is not ALL about the numbers though it is all about A number - valuation. In other words, those companies that treat IR solely as a compliance function are leaving money on the table - and that’s a number that matters!
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TS Elliott on March 08, 2010
Darrell Heaps on March 08, 2010
Great post Rob, I agree that it’s ultimately about valuation. I very much like your point about companies that view IR as a compliance function are leaving money on the table. What could be more motivating to get companies to change!
Stefan Pettersson on March 09, 2010
Yes, IR is ultimately about one number: how to achieve a fair valuation. But the markets routinely get this number wrong (interesting perspective/findings on this here: http://bit.ly/9jOoJt). Also, it is rare that management has a robust view of the intrinsic value of the firm. IR is still a relatively young field. Companies are not nearly as proactive as they should be in pursuing the goal of a fair valuation. I think this is changing, although slowly. Several of my clients have started working in a more “data-driven” way and spend more time on analysis. I also believe that IR can learn a lot from the marketing field, not least when it comes to measurement and accountability.
Rob Berick on March 10, 2010
Excellent feedback and input, folks. Many thanks for taking the time to weigh in.
TS: two-thirds into your response, I thought you and I were just not seeing the world the same. By the end, I see we are largely in agreement.
While I agree different folks look at different numbers, I do believe valuation is a common ground for all. Therefore, it is important (imho) that IROs focus the investor messaging on what folks need to know/understand/believe in order to have a positive influence on valuation (e.g., a strict report out on the financial results is not enough).
Stefan - what a good read… thanks for the link. I agree re: the frequency with which the markets get the number wrong. A lot of folks talk a good game about measurement but I have yet to see one that truly energizes me. For me, the real “ah ha!” is found in the subjective findings from an investor perception study that also provides insight into the peer group valuation. Have you seen other measurement tools that you like?
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Well, IMO everything in business is about numbers and it doesn’t matter if you are the CEO, CFO or the IRO. But there is a difference of course in what numbers each individual focuses on. I know when I make my IR goals what numbers the CEO and other members of management are looking at. I also know what numbers the investors are looking at. The interesting dynamic for me is how a CEO interprets data so differently than a shareholder. We all know that everyone wants to see numbers going up - so your question is rhetorical.
I think what you are trying to put your finger on is what is left when we get past the compliance requirements. And what is left IS what really matters. People have intimate relationships with their money and investors are people. So, the question IRO’s should be asking is, “What type of relationship exists between my company and our individual investors?” And the answer to that question doesn’t have any numbers in it.